Wednesday, September 18, 2013

Suffering


What does "meaningless suffering" mean?  Is there value in suffering?  What do the Buddhists say about suffering?

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  1. meaningless suffering is exactly that, suffering through which we gain nothing other than physical torment. in certain sufferings I believe there is value, but it all depends on the type of suffering. suffering through waiting, may teach you patience, but that doesn't mean all suffering has a value. the Buddhists say that there are two types of suffering, meaningful, and meaningless, one which brings growth, and values to our mind and soul, while the other is just pointless. which I agree with, some suffering offers up something, while other suffering is just... suffering.

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    1. I agree with Leticia, that sometimes in suffering there is meaning because of there was no suffering how would we know that what we have is truly great and treasure life as a gift.

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  2. I think that meaningless suffering is when people put themselves through things that they could live life without having to have committed. For example drinking and driving not only are they putting their lives in danger but everyone else on the road. Suffering is good because it helps you understand the importance the importance of life and make you realize things that you way have over looked in the past. The Buddhist believe that suffering is a part of life and that people should shelter themselves from it because it is a part of life just like we all die someday we all have to go through some kind of suffering.

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  3. As with all bad things, having suffering gives more meaning to the good and the times with no or less suffering. Buddhist see life as a process of suffering and therefore death as an end to this suffering.There are things we learn from suffering which can be good however there is also "meaningless suffering" which is purely bad. It does not provide with any meaning or help us in any way it is just feeling the suffering and that's it. I think that there can be value in suffering but not in meaningless suffering.

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  4. I think "meaningless suffering" is gaining nothing and only hurting oneself. But I do think there is value in suffering because it helps us grow, develop what our ideas can be on certain things and above all else make us stronger people in the end. Everyone goes through suffering in some point in their lives, but it is up to the person on how they want to deal with it and use it. The Buddhists say there are two types of suffering meaningful and meaningless. One shelters strength and importance in one's life. While the other brings only pain and no hope of growth.

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  5. Meaningless suffering is the type that is cause by rapid events that cause suffering like 9/11, meaningless suffering can also be watching those who are sick dwindle away. Animal suffering can also be meaningless because if you have ever watched an animal you were close to suffer it tears right at your heart strings. Suffering can be valuable though, the saying what ever doesn't kill you makes you stronger is very true, you can grow from the suffering you endure, not saying it makes any situation less horrible just being more bearable.

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  6. Meaningless suffering is suffering that is caused with an outcome that has gained nothing positive. People who do certain events in their life might think that they will have a positive outcome but are not looking at the bigger picture in things and in the end up suffer for nothing. Suffering is not always a bad thing, we learn for out sufferings.We may become a stronger person or have a different outlook on life. So, therefore I guess I keep questioning whether or not the suffering was meaningless. An example that I keep thinking about is that of an addict. The person who is addicted is suffering and in the end may not come to any kind of positive outcome. However, they may go to rehab and end up becoming a inspiriation to someone. Therefore, is the suffering meaningless or not. The family and friends of the addict are suffering as well. They may look at it as meaningless suffering because they may not have a positive outcome in the end.

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  7. Meaningless sufferring is when someone suffers through something that happens in which hurts yourself. I think suicide would be something that would fall under meaningless sufferring. No one is doing it to you; you are doing it to yourself. I do, however, think that there is value in sufferring depending on the situation. For example, if someone is old and has lived their life and is happy with how and where they ended up, then I think it is o.k. to say that they can go. I think there's value in it because others learn from it and move on. The Buddhists say that suffering can be meaningful and it can be meaningless. They believe that we should all recognize that it is going to happen.

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  8. The term Meaningless Suffering is pain or hurt somebody is going through in which they don't have to experience. I do believe that there is value in suffering. If you experience suffering then you have to opportunity to grow stronger as a person, and will be able to handle suffering when it comes again. The Buddhist believe that suffering is necessary and that it is all something we need to experience.

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  9. Meaningless suffering is when we are put through or experience some type of unnecessary discomfort or hard ship that does not provide any benefit at all. Surprisingly this scenario is relatively rare because most of the time something can be learned through suffering or there is some other unseen benefit. I believe that there is value in most suffering, for it allows for a sense of empathy that could not be achieved otherwise. Also the various forms of suffering can assist in the development in virtues and good behaviors like patience and understanding. Buddhist view suffering in general as unnecessary, however when it does occur it is purposeful in most cases. It is a goal of the Buddhist way of life to limit all meaningless suffering if not erase it entirely. For this is the goal presented by the four noble truths of the Buddhist belief.

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  10. Meaningless suffering means that is when we are put through suffering that has no benefits. Most of the time, people do not look at the big picture when it comes to suffering. They do things in their life that they think will have a positive outcome but don't look towards the future and what that can do to them. Suffering can be looked at as a positive. if it doesn't kill you, then it only makes you stronger. The Buddhist believe that everyone needs to experience suffering in order to live.

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  11. I will repeat basically the same thing everyone else has already explained... meaningless suffering is when we inflict pain ourselves for no "reason". Nothing will positive will result from the suffering. Meaningful suffering is the opposite; it can be used to benefit ourselves. When we have no control over the outcome, then it is meaningless to suffer. For example, suffering over how tall you are is pointless since you have not control over your growth. On the other hand, suffering in school is meaningful because your education could lead to other beneficial possibilities like getting a job. The buddhists believe that if we are to suffer then it must be for a positive outcome.

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  12. Suffering can definitely make someone stronger and helps make someone who he/she is. I guess there is "meaningless" suffering, but I haven't really figured out what that could be. Suffering makes a person who he/she is so how can suffering ever be considered meaningless? I think everything depends on how we view our sufferings, whether positively or negatively

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  13. Meaningless suffering is when there no real reason to suffer and yet we are. i think suffering helps us to become stronger and more prepared for whatever life gives us. If we feel like we suffer when a loved one has died, i feel like we might know how to cope with it better when it happens again. The Buddhists believe that suffering is essential to life because it is very purposeful.

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  14. I think that suffering can come from a number of different things. For example, I think that a person can suffer because of circumstances that have happened in their lifetime, like illness and so forth. I don't think that there is any real value to suffering, I think that it is awful to see a person suffer, but it happens to the majority of people. The Buddhist thinks that suffering is a way of life so that we can have purpose.

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  15. To me meaningless suffering is the unnecessary suffering of an individual or group of individuals that neglects any positive outcome of any sort. I do believe that some value can be found in suffering. Suffering can help make us emotionally stronger as well as strengthen our beliefs when they are put to the test. Without suffering no one can truly see the true goodness in things. The Buddhists claimed that two types of suffering exist, meaningless and meaningful. Meaningless suffering provided no spiritual growth for the person while meaningful suffering helped mend the person's heart and soul.

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  16. Meaningless suffering is suffering that occurs for no reason. For example if someone experiences a great deal of pain whilst dying and there is no possibility they will not die, then that suffering is meaningless. Suffering happens to everyone and it is relative. It is how we deal with the suffering to get through it that determines if it has meaning.

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  17. If it lives up to it's name then meaningless suffering has no purpose, but I would think that a certain amount of suffering is not only to be expected in life, but that it has the capacity to be beneficial... "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" and all that.

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